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		<title>By: ilovewinching</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilovewinching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would be cool if they did tricks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be cool if they did tricks.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Lanier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Lanier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a winch in the garage and a rail gap down the street.. got a boat in the creek too......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a winch in the garage and a rail gap down the street.. got a boat in the creek too&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="56300205">Kyle Linsey</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="56300205">Kyle Linsey</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i finally was able to see what all of the hype was about about being &quot;called out&quot; on Alliance and I think this video pretty much just proved my point.  Ok, winching that gap looks fun, yes, but it surely isn&#039;t progressing the sport.  The only thing hard in that video is the kid 3ing the gap.  Otherwise it was nothing more than hopping off a little 8 foot ledge to flat.  Sure there is some impact but not any to cry about or blow a knee over.  The only thing I find impressive about it is that you are able to find these spots.  If you want a new one check out the highway from wellington to belle glade/lake okachobee, i think its highway 84.  It should keep you guys entertained for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i finally was able to see what all of the hype was about about being &#8220;called out&#8221; on Alliance and I think this video pretty much just proved my point.  Ok, winching that gap looks fun, yes, but it surely isn&#8217;t progressing the sport.  The only thing hard in that video is the kid 3ing the gap.  Otherwise it was nothing more than hopping off a little 8 foot ledge to flat.  Sure there is some impact but not any to cry about or blow a knee over.  The only thing I find impressive about it is that you are able to find these spots.  If you want a new one check out the highway from wellington to belle glade/lake okachobee, i think its highway 84.  It should keep you guys entertained for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like a lot of FUN!!!
I think thats what its about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like a lot of FUN!!!<br />
I think thats what its about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: legit</title>
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		<dc:creator>legit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bottom line is that winch-wakeboarding is BORING to watch.  you can only do so many weak grabs and 180&#039;s.  Wakeskating has MANY more variable when winching</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bottom line is that winch-wakeboarding is BORING to watch.  you can only do so many weak grabs and 180&#8242;s.  Wakeskating has MANY more variable when winching</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="867600299">Scott Jobe</fb:name></title>
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		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="867600299">Scott Jobe</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is short boarding vs. long boarding. This is street skating vs. park skating vs. pool skating. This is park shredding vs. back country riding.

If you think one is better than another then, &quot;yeah, well, you know, that&#039;s  just like uh, your opinion man.&quot;

It&#039;s like saying that beer is better than wine, or fish is better than steak. 

I personally think that progression is progression and whatever those guys were doing was not ground breaking progression, but it was a part of the overall progression has occurred in wakeboarding over the last few years. It did look fun, for them. I personally don&#039;t like jumping down anything without a transition at the bottom, but I&#039;m pussy or I value my knees. It all depends on your perspective.

There&#039;s a massive issue with the, &quot;I want content now media generation&quot; that exists today. Hard tricks and progression take time to achieve. Something new can&#039;t be done everyday, but that&#039;s how often we want new content. We want that s**t now. 

It&#039;s not a media sites fault that they can&#039;t get ground breaking content everyday. Ground breaking things don&#039;t happen everyday. What has happened is a massive amount of progression, everyone is so good, and that&#039;s going to continue to speed up. 

If you want to get better at wakeboarding, wakeskating, or waterboarding in general, then do as many things as you can to improve. Ride cable. Ride winches. Ride behind 4 wheelers or helicopters or whatever you can get your hands on. Me personally. I ride behind yachts and that&#039;s way more bad ass than any winch, boat, cable system or ferrari you ride behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is short boarding vs. long boarding. This is street skating vs. park skating vs. pool skating. This is park shredding vs. back country riding.</p>
<p>If you think one is better than another then, &#8220;yeah, well, you know, that&#8217;s  just like uh, your opinion man.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like saying that beer is better than wine, or fish is better than steak. </p>
<p>I personally think that progression is progression and whatever those guys were doing was not ground breaking progression, but it was a part of the overall progression has occurred in wakeboarding over the last few years. It did look fun, for them. I personally don&#8217;t like jumping down anything without a transition at the bottom, but I&#8217;m pussy or I value my knees. It all depends on your perspective.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a massive issue with the, &#8220;I want content now media generation&#8221; that exists today. Hard tricks and progression take time to achieve. Something new can&#8217;t be done everyday, but that&#8217;s how often we want new content. We want that s**t now. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a media sites fault that they can&#8217;t get ground breaking content everyday. Ground breaking things don&#8217;t happen everyday. What has happened is a massive amount of progression, everyone is so good, and that&#8217;s going to continue to speed up. </p>
<p>If you want to get better at wakeboarding, wakeskating, or waterboarding in general, then do as many things as you can to improve. Ride cable. Ride winches. Ride behind 4 wheelers or helicopters or whatever you can get your hands on. Me personally. I ride behind yachts and that&#8217;s way more bad ass than any winch, boat, cable system or ferrari you ride behind.</p>
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		<title>By: steveP</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>board under feet....COOL!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>board under feet&#8230;.COOL!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: A-Grimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-Grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this whole argument is completely rediculous!  Its just as gay as snowboarders that will only ride park or powder and hate on the other aspect of the sport for whatever reason.  They are both fun and both part of snowboarding for a reason, and the legends in snowboarding can shred both.  

As wakeboarders i think that we should all be greatful that we have so many different ways that we can ride our boards.  You can ride behind a boat, pwc, winch, cable, system 2.0, car, 4-wheeler, etc.  What other boardsport do you have that many options of ways to shred.  Hell even snowboarders are starting to use system 2.0&#039;s and winches now, and skateboarders have started towing into things. All boardsports feed off each other, and whether you like it or not, the things guys like the shred town crew, gabe lucas, clay fletcher, and other free-riders are doing behind winches has brought a great deal of respect to our sport from other board sports that have never really respected doing flips behind an eighty thousand dollar boat and falling into water.  However, they do respect doing anything over rocks and metal obstacles and landing in a foot of water; who in there right mind wouldn&#039;t. 

 I have a buddy that has a sick rail pond in Mississippi, (5 well built rails), but they ride behind a 4-wheeler because that is what they have.  Does that make the things they are doing not as cool for some reason because the 4-wheeler makes it seem to red-neck!!

I think people should focus more on what is taking place on the board verses what is pulling the rider. . . 

Yes, maybe a few kids have gotten videos posted somewhere, even though the riding wasn&#039;t good, just because they were winching a gap. But that is just because it is such a new part of our sport and people are still intrigued by it.  But instead of bitching about it, go make a better video, or do something more sick on their spot. . . That is how skateboarding works, even at a pro level in Cali. 

And for guys like me who have been wakeboarding for 14 or 15 years and have always rode behind a boat, the winch and cable parks are something new and fresh to keep wakeboarding exciting.  Over the past 15 years i have literally spent over 1,000 days on the lake and riding behind a boat, but have only been lucky enough to go winch a fun spot maybe 15 or 20 times, and every one of those days i consider to be some of the most fun days i have had on a wakeboard.  

The bottom line is quit worrying about what someone is riding behind and be thankful that we now have so many options of ways to ride a wakeboard.  and have some respect for anyone that does something sick no matter what they are behind.

Anyone that thinks winching is lame or too easy needs to spend a day and go slide some CONCRETE with gabe lucas and his boys. . . Maybe a couple front edges to a concrete slab will knock some sense into their thick skulls!!!

And anyone that thinks flips down drops would be cool, needs to be banished to WAKE SKIS and WAKE KITES from now on!!

Peace out, and have fun shredding no matter how you decide to do it!

Aaron - G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this whole argument is completely rediculous!  Its just as gay as snowboarders that will only ride park or powder and hate on the other aspect of the sport for whatever reason.  They are both fun and both part of snowboarding for a reason, and the legends in snowboarding can shred both.  </p>
<p>As wakeboarders i think that we should all be greatful that we have so many different ways that we can ride our boards.  You can ride behind a boat, pwc, winch, cable, system 2.0, car, 4-wheeler, etc.  What other boardsport do you have that many options of ways to shred.  Hell even snowboarders are starting to use system 2.0&#8242;s and winches now, and skateboarders have started towing into things. All boardsports feed off each other, and whether you like it or not, the things guys like the shred town crew, gabe lucas, clay fletcher, and other free-riders are doing behind winches has brought a great deal of respect to our sport from other board sports that have never really respected doing flips behind an eighty thousand dollar boat and falling into water.  However, they do respect doing anything over rocks and metal obstacles and landing in a foot of water; who in there right mind wouldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p> I have a buddy that has a sick rail pond in Mississippi, (5 well built rails), but they ride behind a 4-wheeler because that is what they have.  Does that make the things they are doing not as cool for some reason because the 4-wheeler makes it seem to red-neck!!</p>
<p>I think people should focus more on what is taking place on the board verses what is pulling the rider. . . </p>
<p>Yes, maybe a few kids have gotten videos posted somewhere, even though the riding wasn&#8217;t good, just because they were winching a gap. But that is just because it is such a new part of our sport and people are still intrigued by it.  But instead of bitching about it, go make a better video, or do something more sick on their spot. . . That is how skateboarding works, even at a pro level in Cali. </p>
<p>And for guys like me who have been wakeboarding for 14 or 15 years and have always rode behind a boat, the winch and cable parks are something new and fresh to keep wakeboarding exciting.  Over the past 15 years i have literally spent over 1,000 days on the lake and riding behind a boat, but have only been lucky enough to go winch a fun spot maybe 15 or 20 times, and every one of those days i consider to be some of the most fun days i have had on a wakeboard.  </p>
<p>The bottom line is quit worrying about what someone is riding behind and be thankful that we now have so many options of ways to ride a wakeboard.  and have some respect for anyone that does something sick no matter what they are behind.</p>
<p>Anyone that thinks winching is lame or too easy needs to spend a day and go slide some CONCRETE with gabe lucas and his boys. . . Maybe a couple front edges to a concrete slab will knock some sense into their thick skulls!!!</p>
<p>And anyone that thinks flips down drops would be cool, needs to be banished to WAKE SKIS and WAKE KITES from now on!!</p>
<p>Peace out, and have fun shredding no matter how you decide to do it!</p>
<p>Aaron &#8211; G</p>
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